And now we know. Looks like rather than trying to make Batman smile or fight him in the streets of Gotham, Arthur would end up being amazed by the beloved DC hero. This might be surprising for hardcore fans of the comics, but the character is a new creation that isn't operating by the same rules as Mr. J.

Joker: Folie Deux helmer Todd Phillips shares what led to him making the upcoming DC sequel with lead star Joaquin Phoenix.

"I think Arthur always had a fascination with men at ease, and he is not a man at ease. Murray Franklin in the first movie was a man at ease," Phillips continued. "He probably saw the guys he worked with as men at ease, and that was the one thing that Arthur could never be was a man at ease."

Folie a Deux’ after finding that he and Joaquin Phoenix were "really sad" after finishing the first movie. The director, 53, and 49-year-old actor - who plays the Joker/ Arthur Fleck in the picture - have returned to the dark DC universe with the follow-up to the acclaimed 2019 flick,

Joker hit doesn't take place in the main cinematic DC Universe but in the DC Elseworlds. That's how the supervillain Joker is turned into Arthur Fleck, and the film doesn't include Batman as the ultimate savior in Fleck's Gotham City.